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3g-g
18th December 2006, 12:16 AM
I do wonder if a joint branded Google / Orange handset might be a bit too much, however, perhaps Orange are starting to see the light and realise that they're the service provider and that they should leave the content etc to the experts?


Google is on the move. The internet giant has held talks with Orange, the mobile phone operator, about a multi-billion-dollar partnership to create a 'Google phone' which makes it easy to search the web wherever you are.

The collaboration between two of the most powerful brands in technology is seen as a potential catalyst for making internet use of mobile phones as natural as on desktop computers and laptops.

Executives from Orange flew to Silicon Valley in California for a meeting at Google's headquarters, or 'Googleplex', to hold preliminary discussions about a joint deal. The companies believe that they have an affinity as brands that are perceived as both 'positive' and 'innovative'.

Their plans centre on a branded Google phone, which would probably also carry Orange's logo. The device would not be revolutionary: manufactured by HTC, a Taiwanese firm specialising in smart phones and Personal Data Assistants (PDAs), it might have a screen similar to a video iPod. But it would have built-in Google software which would dramatically improve on the slow and cumbersome experience of surfing the web from a mobile handset.

A source close to the talks told The Observer: 'Google are software experts and are doing some amazing work compressing data so that the mobile user gets a much better experience. They don't know so much about mobiles, but they are eager to learn from Orange's years of experience.'

Among the potential benefits are location-based searches: aware of your handset's geographical position, Google could offer a tailored list of local cinemas, restaurants and other amenities, and maps and images from Google Earth. It is believed that the Google phone would not go on sale before 2008.

Google value the expertise of Orange, which is owned by France Telecom, Europe's second-largest telecoms group. A joint deal could be highly lucrative. Google recently became Silicon Valley's most valuable business at £81bn, although it still has a long way to go to eclipse the Seattle-based Microsoft. France Telecom has had a rockier spell, but this year announced sales of £33bn.

Tony Cooper, a telecoms consultant at Deloitte, said: 'There are numerous situations in which people say "I wish I had Google in my hand", and I can imagine the younger generation of users would think that a Google phone is a cool idea. It could bring in location-based searches like "Find a Thai restaurant in my area".'

He added: 'It has a potential to be a success, and to offer commercial success for both companies, particularly if Orange can link it to its broadband offering. If I was Orange, I'd want to get a share of the ad click-through revenues; if I was Google, I'd want a share of the airtime revenue. The potential stumbling block is if it's clunky and hard to use.'

Google already offers its search engine and other services on mobile phones. It has a partnership with Vodafone and last month announced a broadband agreement with the operator 3. It is working to make youTube, the video-sharing site it bought recently for £870m, easily accessible on handsets. But it is eager to expand in what experts see as a huge potential market, possibly the key to the future of the internet.

Manufacturers such as Nokia and Motorola are working to make the mobile internet commonplace. Earlier this year Anssi Vanjoki, executive vice-president of Nokia, said at a product show in New York: 'In the mid-Nineties I said that if you don't have a mobile phone you will be making a declaration that you wanted to be outside organised society. People said I was crazy, but now everybody has a mobile phone. Today I'm saying that in 10 years' time the same will be true if you don't have the full internet in your pocket.

A spokesman for Google said: 'We don't comment on market speculation and rumour, but we are focused on mobile and there's nothing new in our commitment to that space.' Orange declined to comment.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1973885,00.html

3g-g
20th December 2006, 12:36 AM
Something else I've found with le Orange and Google having a little natter with each other, Google are suggesting that mobile phones should be free, the revenue made from advertising would cover the cost. So, would you take a free Google phone if all you had to put up with were adverts? Could you cope?


Will Orange soon be Google's favorite color?

France Telecom Group’s “Orange” mobile telephony division is in discussions with Google about a prospective “branded Google phone,” according to Guardian reports:

"Manufactured by HTC, a Taiwanese firm specialising in smart phones and Personal Data Assistants, it might have a screen similar to a video iPod. It would have built-in Google software (for) surfing the web from a mobile handset…The companies believe that they have an affinity as brands that are perceived as both 'positive' and 'innovative'.

France-Telecom does appear to share Google’s worldwide growth ambitions. It touts:

The group is even more effective to accompany its clients of all sizes, in all countries, on the road to IP convergence and their integration in the information system.

France-Telecom on its 2005 year of “innovation for Orange and broadband”:

The aim is to become the benchmark brand for tomorrow's world of mobile telephony.

Orange is one of the world leaders for mobile telephony. Driven by the adoption of the Orange brand in Poland, the buyout of Amena in Spain, as well as the performance of the numerous subsidiaries, the mobile business now accounts for 50% of France Telecom's sales.

3G kicks off
Launched in 2004, Orange UK and Orange France 3G services took off during the year 2005. By December 31, 2005, the two subsidiaries respectively accounted for more than 306,000 3G customers in the United Kingdom and more than 1 million broadband customers in France (EDGE and 3G).

In September, Orange Switzerland opened its 3G network in 14 cities.

84.3 million mobile customers at December 31, 2005

56% of mobile broadband owners in France use television and video services.

The Group seeks to serve more than 12 million mobile broadband customers in 2008, including more than 6 million in France and more than 5 million in the United Kingdom.

In July, France Telecom acquired nearly 80% of Amena, the 3rd ranked mobile operator in Spain holding 24% of the market, for 6.4 billion euros. This buyout enabled 10.3 million Amena customers to join the Group by the end of 2005.

More than 1.5 million broadband service subscribers at December 31, 2005

Google CEO Eric Schmidt has recently called for free mobile phones:

As mobile phones become more like handheld computers and consumers spend as much as eight to 10 hours a day talking, texting and using the Web on these devices, advertising becomes a viable form of subsidy.

‘Your mobile phone should be free. It just makes sense that subsidies should increase.’

Larry Page - Co-Founder and President of Products, focused on Google’s mobile strategy in its Q2 earnings call:

We are bringing more of our products to mobile phone users. Since there are at least twice as many mobile phones than PCs in use globally, and mobile usage is growing faster than PCs, we want to make Google available in a device-independent way.

Mobile phone users can now access Gmail, news and a personalized homepage in French, Italian, German and more. We launched Maps for mobile in several additional countries, and we are creating more opportunities for advertisers to reach users through mobile devices.

We launched mobile ads in Japan in April, and the early results are very positive. We expect to roll out mobile ads in additional countries later this year.

How about next year? Mobile ads on FREE Google (orange) Phones?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/micro-markets/?p=781

Hands0n
20th December 2006, 12:39 AM
I think that the ads would drive me quietly insane! I am already very suspicious of the advertisers, without resorting to Conspiracy Theories :D

But would I take a "free" phone .......... well .......... don't I get one anyway with my contract? Okay, it may be bundled in the contract price and heavily discounted, but I've not actually laid out any cold cash up front for it. So it feels nice.

High Five :D