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3GScottishUser
2nd December 2007, 11:39 AM
Having had the 3skypephone for a few weeks and having enjoyed using it I took the plunge and ordered an LG U990 Viewty on a Mix & Match plan on 3. The main reason for choosing 3 over the others who have this handset available is the amount of free video and content available. I also like the add-ons and the Internet pricing on 3 now. For far too long I have had powerful 3G handsets with services that are simply too expensive to make them useable (i.e. Orange's loony £4/month for 4MB on their Orange World service where nothing is free!!).

The Viewty too a while to arrive. Over 2 weeks from order to delivery but it did arrive exactly when stated via Royal Mail Special Delivery. 3 have been quite good at keeping in touch with reminders of the delivery date and advice about number allocation etc.

Opening the Viewty is a pleasure. LG have gone to great lengths to make the package feel special. The box is very high quality and the packaging is of a very high standard. It feels like a premium product. Included in the package is everything you could need including a screen protector (glorified sellotape really!) and a decent headset which has facility to allow you to use your own headset with a standard 3.5mm stereo mini-jack. Inserting the SIM, Memory card (Micro SD) and Battery is easy enough and the initial charge takes about 3 hours. Keep a mains charger handy as the viewty seems to have an appitite for charging!!

The Viewty takes a little time to get used to in terms of the touch screen. Menus are intuitive and well thought out and navigation is easy with soft keys on the touch screen. There is just too much on the phone to go into too much detail but suffice to say that the media player is top notch and the camera is not only great quality but has a weath of features for both taking stills and video and editing the results.

The Viewty like most mobiles suffers from an amazing yet simple drawback..... you cant insert a rival operator's USIM/SIM to copy contact details!! Surely manufacturers could make that basic facility available whilst making network services SIM locked!! The display is huge and easy to read and has visual indication of the type of network being received.

The Viewty over the last 48 hours has been quite fussy with 3's signal in my home area. There are major parts of highly populated areas of Glasgow where 3 don't have any coverage (well at least not indoors). Where they have coverage it can vary greatly. I have stood and watched the signal go from 3 bars of 3G to 1 bar of HSDPA then switch to GSM all within 10 seconds!! I have not made many calls as yet but have had two dropped calls so far and both happened when the phone switched from a low grade 3G signal to Orange's GSM. I have made one videocall and although the quality was a bit poor (pixilating) it was stable for 2 minutes or so. Services are great when they are available but due to coverage there are limitations that are making me think carefully before buying the internet add-on. I have installed LG's data suite on my laptop and will probably try the HSDPA in this area soon. The set up of the software is seamless and worked first time with either USB or bluetooth.

Extra services require software downloads when you use them for the first time. Pretty quick and easy when you are in coverage though to get the Skype and Windows Live Messenger clients and fairly easy to use once installed. Both can run in the background and you get an audible warning when either need attention.

Overall my first impressions of the handset are positive. I am not entirely convinced about 3's coverage or handover and so far the LG does not appear as resiliant as the 3Skypephone. Services (when available) are superb now and 3 now have the content and pricing to make this high spec handset worth buying.

Early days...... we shall see how it works over the next week or so and I will pack my little 3Skypephone for comparison. Thinking about it, we have come a long way after 18 months.... I vowed I would never carry another 3 handset and I now am packing two!!

Watch this space for updates......

Hands0n
2nd December 2007, 09:32 PM
The Viewty over the last 48 hours has been quite fussy with 3's signal in my home area. There are major parts of highly populated areas of Glasgow where 3 don't have any coverage (well at least not indoors). Where they have coverage it can vary greatly. I have stood and watched the signal go from 3 bars of 3G to 1 bar of HSDPA then switch to GSM all within 10 seconds!! I have not made many calls as yet but have had two dropped calls so far and both happened when the phone switched from a low grade 3G signal to Orange's GSM.

I'd have thought that this is going to be Cell Breathing in your area. Especially likely if there is a large 3 3G user population or not many adjacent cells. Eventually you'll be bound to drop to GSM as the 3G cells contract due to incumbent utilisation.

Cell breathing is the constant change of the range of the geographical area covered by a cellular telephone transmitter based on the amount of traffic currently using that transmitter. When a cell becomes heavily loaded, it shrinks. Subscriber traffic is then redirected to a neighboring cell that is more lightly loaded, which is called load balancing. Cell breathing is a common phenomenon of 2G and 3G wireless systems including code-division multiple access (CDMA). CDMA2000 and wideband code-division multiple access (WCDMA) are designed to manage cell breathing.

Source: http://searchmobilecomputing.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid40_gci820970,00.html

That would explain the signal strength bars wobbling all over the place. As the local transmitter range shortens the signal strength will drop off until there is insufficient or the handset itself decides to flip over to 2G to see what is available there.

getti
3rd December 2007, 12:27 AM
3GSU happy on 3.... why do i have an urge to get up and dance around in the streets :)

3GScottishUser
3rd December 2007, 09:20 PM
I would not say I was 100% happy. With signal strength dropping and switching all over the place it's not ideal.

I have gone for the Broadband Lite add-on today and it's great to set up with the software supplied by LG. All the settings are already there and it's seamless to connect with either Bluetooth or the USB cable.

One problem (nothing to do with 3) thankfully is the battery life on the Viewty. Mine died at 6PM tonight after just a little while browsing using bluetooth and a couple of short calls. This is dissapointing and I'll be packing the USB cable for modem use in future to see if that extends the life of the battery. Connection to 3's data services is quite good but even with HSDPA it does not seem any faster than Vodafone's standard 3G. There is a good bit of latency between calling up a URL and it appering on the laptop screen.

The above aside I am enjoying the Viewty but wonder why 3 have now dropped it from their on-line store... any ideas?

getti
3rd December 2007, 10:03 PM
due to the demand afaik. With every 100 coming in stock 300 are ordering lol. Should be back to normal soon but it makes sure everyone who has ordered gets theres

Hands0n
4th December 2007, 01:02 AM
How about some 3 3G/HSDPA Speed tests at http://www.speedtest.net You can paste the resulting URLs on here too :D

We've now got Ben with Vodafone, me with T-Mobile and 3GSU with 3 - so maybe its time for a "Shootout" on Speedtest.net.

Don't worry about O2 and Orange - they're largely irrelevant :D

Ben
4th December 2007, 10:37 AM
3GSU - please could you do the ping tests described here (http://www.talk3g.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4742) while connected over Three HSDPA and update that thread with them? Ty!

3GScottishUser
6th December 2007, 01:52 AM
After a few days it's good to report that the Viewty is behaving well and voice calls and data appear stable on 3 most of the time. It's a world away from the last time I used the network and I'm quite comfortable about porting a number into 3 now.

I am enjoying making use of all the facilities that 3G can offer at an affordable price. Free video news, weather and features. Free Windows Live Messenger, Skype, Yahoo, Yell and Google search and Internet on my handset and laptop for £10 a month (1GB).

Makes me really angry to think I had a similarly capable handset (N80) on Orange for 18 months and they made it impossible (due to ridiculous pricing) to make any real use of it. They might as well just go back to giving out Nokia 3210's for all the difference it would make to customers :(

The 3 Internet add-on is one to watch. Whilst it's not a contractual commitment it automatically rolls over each month if you don't cancel it. A few of 3's services do tis but you are warned at the point of purchace that is the case.

mob453
6th December 2007, 09:38 AM
3210s? nah try Motofone F3s, as all orange seem good for are calls and texts, yet they charge for delivery receipts, so all they are good for is calls

nikez2k4
21st December 2007, 09:57 AM
Hi 3GSU

You mentioned in your first message that you were on 3 and:

Skype and Windows Live Messenger clients and fairly easy to use once installed.

I haved checked on the 3 website and it doesn't mention the Viewty on the list of supported mobiles. May I ask how you managed to get it downloaded and installed? My Viewty should be comming today and I would really like to get this setup :)

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

MOZ

getti
21st December 2007, 11:15 AM
When you get the phone load up Planet 3. Then choose 'Services' and 'Communicate'

There you will find the downloads for MSN, Skype and so on :)

nikez2k4
21st December 2007, 12:00 PM
Ahh cool - thanks a lot! :)

I have had Messenger on my K800i for so long I didn't know if it was available on Planet 3.

Thanks a lot!

MOZ

3GScottishUser
22nd December 2007, 12:33 PM
Even easier use the 3 Launcher softkey on the bottom left side of the screen. Most of the popular services available on the handset are listed there.

You will have to download the MSN client and it runs as an application so you cant play games etc whilst it is running. You will be warned if you try to launch anything else that conflicts with it.

One sad drawback with the Viewty is that the 'Keyboard' is not available to use with MSN! That would have made it much easier to communicate but it's restricted to text use :(.

solo12002
23rd December 2007, 02:33 PM
" The 3 Internet add-on is one to watch. Whilst it's not a contractual commitment it automatically rolls over each month if you don't cancel it. A few of 3's services do tis but you are warned at the point of purchace that is the case"

did you go for the PAYG Broadband lite at £10 a month and run on rates of £1 a MB or the contract at 10p per MB runover?