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Hands0n
25th February 2011, 12:05 AM
Those awfully nice people at giffgaff have been giving away completely unlimited mobile data free of charge since its inception. All that was required was for an initial £10 activation top-up (at which point they also gave an additional £5). This has been great for anyone with a smartphone that is in an O2 area (the host network for the MVNO that is giffgaff) with 3G.

The plan, since December 2010, has been to start charging for mobile data as of 1st March. But for various reasons the charging system has been delayed several times and thus giffgaff have had to extend the period of free mobile data. Sadly the time is drawing near - giffgaff have had yet another delay and so the new data to start charging for mobile data is 1st April - but even they appear sceptical. So maybe we'll see the date pushed out to 1st May? Who knows.

As I read through their recently published article I was concerned that they would blow the proposition and charge silly money like the rest of the PAYG competition. But I was pleasantly surprised - not everyone will be, however.

In short, giffgaff propose to charge 20p for the first 1MB (charged in KB until the first 1MB is used), after this, data is free until you use over 20MB, when you will be charged 20p per MB thereafter.

giffgaff say, in their own words:

Put in another way, 20p a day for 20 MB. If you go over the 20MB, you will pay 20p per MB. If you use a small amount of data, then don’t worry, there is a ramp up to the 20p, charged in KB. The aim of this is suit members who do not buy goodybags and either use a little or a lot of data. The percentage of customers using on average above 20MB per day is 7.6%. This pricing strikes that balance for the majority of members and is competitive with the PAYG market.

Full article is here: http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Blog/Data-pricing-update/ba-p/429379

Now it is important to note that this only applies to those people who do not purchase the goody bags of £10 and upwards. The goody bag purchasers get [truly] unlimited mobile data, but tethering is strictly not allowed. They have to purchase a new goody bag each month.

So, the proposed PAYG data tariff of 20p per 20MB of data is actually very good. For a lot of people that will be plenty enough. I am constantly surprised at how modest an amount of mobile data I use routinely. Of course, I can use huge amounts from time to time. But for typical Twitter, Facebook and some browsing I am often seeing usage of below 20MB.

The scary bit ...
But you do have to be careful with your mobile data usage once the new tariff kicks in. giffgaff do say quite clearly in their document "If you go over the 20MB, you will pay 20p per MB." Now that could amount to quite a scary bit of cash over a month if you are not diligently monitoring your data usage.

On Android I use an application called NetCounter by Cyril Jaquier. It is a very simple utility, but very capable too, allowing the setting of alert thresholds for data usage by day, week or month. NetCounter is completely functional and bug free.

So there you have it. The folk at giffgaff seem to have scored yet another win for most people. But seriously, if you believe that you will be routinely using more than 20MB per day then you really should consider the £10 goody bag (or higher) that will get you 200 minutes of calls, unlimited SMS and unlimited mobile data.

Ben
25th February 2011, 10:27 AM
That does seem really good as a standard rate. I think if we could see a standard PAYG overage rate in the region of 10p per MB across the networks then we'd have made some real progress. I like the 20p for up to 20MB and I like the per-KB charging up to that first MB.

solo12002
25th February 2011, 04:40 PM
I only wish they get finger out and do blackberry even if they placed a 2Gb limit on it.

Hands0n
25th February 2011, 11:11 PM
Are there not several "free" or at least independent BIS services out on the Internet that you could use across giffgaff's mobile Internet?

solo12002
26th February 2011, 11:47 AM
@Handson

Im not aware of any my main mobile is a nokia E52 which is a crap phone on the sim only one plan @£25 a month as all of family on three and so far no bother at all.

I have a sim only deal with o2 £10 PM with 300 mins UL Text and BB access but also have a GG sim card to me it makes sensse to have less mobiles my prob is:


Family all use three so will stick to it plus I get 10p roaming rate in south of Ireland Im from North. Secondly mt mate is on O2 PAYG now he would switch to GG was he get more mins for same price but they dont do BB. Both his BB and mine are sim free and unbranded.

Its s ashame GG have not moved faster with this as it was raised last Aug and all of networks now do BB but them and maybe ADSA.

On the Nokia E52 asspect Im still looking at a Android phone to replace it to but my three sime in it. I think 4 inch screens are to big so 3 or 3.8 would be fine problem is finding a good one lol

Hands0n
27th February 2011, 10:22 AM
@solo12002 - If you are after a decent budget-priced Android then I can recommend the Orange San Francisco. Argos are selling them in-store only for £90 which includes a £10 top up, so the handset is only £80. You can get the Unlock code for it free of charge from the web (see my article on Talk3G) and it roots and de-brands easily with ROMs from Modaco and Cyanogen.

Currently I am running the Cyanogen Gingerbread (Android 2.3.2) ROM, it has almost everything except WiFi Tethering, but then it is very new. The Froyo ROMs (Modaco and Cyanogen) are slightly more mature in that respect and are full featured.

From out of the box to unlocked and de-branded the San Francisco should take about one hour at the most :)

Capability-wise, this route to Android is cheap as chips but is also not a compromise other than the smaller screen and thus lesser resolution than the big guys such as the HTC Desire HD. In terms of OS functionality, there is absolutely no difference or lesser capability.

solo12002
27th February 2011, 10:04 PM
@handson

If you can find the item about rooting it etc ill be greatful. Found the thread on unlocking but its how to debrand and then nstall 2.3 etc

Hands0n
27th February 2011, 11:00 PM
@solo12002 - Start here mate, its all in the thread, links and everything to get root and a custom rom going http://android.modaco.com/content/zte-blade-roms-rom-customisation/329864/26-feb-guide-how-to-install-a-custom-rom-on-the-zte-blade/

If you're after Gingerbread there is the Cyanogen 7 ROM which is available in RC1 (somewhat stable) or Nightly (potentially unstable but the latest and greatest, each night as the name implies) - see here --> http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/15844-cyanogenmod-7-for-blade-v700-rc1-2152011/

gorilla
14th March 2011, 01:55 PM
I have joined giffgaff and I have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised. I was sure O2 would let them down, but now I'm thinking it's the iPhone that let O2 done. On the HTC Desire I get good coverage and good data speeds and at work, I get better coverage than I did with 3.
I'm buying the £10 goodybag which will give me more value than I got with three so all in all, I think I'm happy.

solo12002
17th March 2011, 09:29 AM
Chirs

I think you made a smart moved based on comments on the O2 fourm about prices of textx inceasing to 12p out of bundle calls going up from 20p to 35p and the aaded blot ons of unlimted landline or o2 calls being scrapped along with unlimited textx increaseing from £5 to £7.50 loads of info on the o2 fourn or on here under the MTR or O2 thread.

Hands0n
17th March 2011, 08:58 PM
Seriously, if 250 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited web (in the dictionary definition of the word) suit you, and there is O2 coverage in your area of work, live, play, then giffgaff is hard to beat. Particularly if you don't want a contract tie in. Their £10 Goody Bag is surprisingly good value in even today's market.

Next up is Three's PAYG at £15 for 300 minutes, 3,000 texts and [again as per the dictionary] unlimited Internet called All You Can Eat. So thats an extra £5 for that additional 50 minutes. Not awful.

After that the PAYG market is a veritable minefield. Personally, I would not consider any network's PAYG other than these two at this time.

gorilla
20th March 2011, 01:47 PM
Totally agree. I like the fact that you can queue goody bags on giff gaff. The O2 network is not as good as 3's but I can live with that.